The importance of good crowd control

Tonight I had decided to finally put up my own lfm for shroud, hard. I needed (still need) mats for tier 3 of my gs goggles. But, when I logged on with Thaz, I noticed an lfm for just that, Shroud hard. I joined and got a bit worried that they were gonna have me solo heal it. Told the leader that “we need a minimum of one more healer.. unless the bard’s on healer duty”. Final spot was filled by another cleric and in we went. In part 2 we needed 2 goes, because killing the reds was timed wrong and crystal wasn’t shattered on first attempt. But second was a success. In part 3 I was on puzzle duty πŸ™‚ I got a 5×5 and I solved it in maybe 10 seconds. Didn’t need to run up top, just pressed below the dark ones and it got solved. Then found someone in a 3×3 waiting by the door, and went in and it got solved pretty easily. Then found a 5×5 where someone was again standing by the door. There was someone else in there was well, but he didn’t seem to be doing anything (later told me he was using a solver). So I went in and started solving it. Had to work my way down twice, but solved it in 20 or 30 seconds? At this point I couldn’t hear anything but my heart beating and my hands were shaking like crazy πŸ™‚ But yay! I’ve now been able to solve all the shroud puzzles using the method found here: HOWTO: Solve the vale puzzle yourself.

In part 4 people didn’t wait for the blades to go away before killing the last devil, even though we had decided to do so. But part 4 got finished in two rounds and only one death. And part 5 went pretty well as well, maybe 2 deaths. I did drink one pot, though, even though I don’t particularly like to do so. But on the large mats bit it was rather disappointing. 1 large devil scale was all I got. So I decided to go run epic Devil assault for mats. Hard.

And here’s were I start talking about crowd control. You know how people say that good healers are hard to find, or like someone told me today, there’s never too many good healers (or something like that). But cc’s a thing. CC takes skills. It requires high enough DC for the foes to stick, and knowledge about the quest, so you know where to put the cc. I ran eDA 3 times today, on hard. First two runs we had one wizard do cc, in the last one another. In the first two runs we were also two healers, but both of us were meleing/ casting, and I was mostly aura healing. The first two runs went very smoothly, because the wiz put up discos and web by the portals (first rounds in the middle) and he got almost everything to stick. Dancing or stuck in web foes don’t hit you, so very little healing required.

For the third run we lost the wizard we had and were joined by another. This guy was very green, and his only cc was disco, which he wasn’t using very well. He had one disco ball in the middle only. And he got less than half of the foes to stick. Safe to say we were pretty much in trouble. People were taking a lot of damage, including me. In the first two runs I was feeling pretty good, in the third one I thought to myself, “is this never gonna end?”. I was lagging a bit, my heals weren’t taking… and I died. At least twice. Luckily everyone, but the wizard had a good amount of hp, and didn’t drop even though I did. I got a raise, healed up and healed with what I had. I drank 3 pots and used scrolls. The wizard died twice, the fighter I believe once. I saw it happening, was pressing buttons for heals, but nothing happened, so he dropped.

After this run the wizard asks, again on hard or do you wanna try elite? At this point I’m thinking “Seriously? We barely made it through on hard, and you want to try elite?” I was though feeling pretty tired and most of the others had to go as well, so I was ready to call it a night. I did get some frags, a couple of large gs mats and a bunch of xp. Thaz has enough xp for 21. Don’t think I want to level her just yet, though. I still have quests lvl 17 I want to run, and I don’t want to outlevel them too much.

But yeah, I’ve learned, that having a good cc in the party when doing epics or hard quests in general (Servants of the overlord comes to mind), can be the difference between success and failure. Like I mentioned in a previous post, I tried doing cc with my sorc in Servants of the overlord elite, and I was surprised that it actually worked pretty well πŸ™‚

Alright. need to sleep now. Tc and see you in game.

P.S. after running Thaz, I logged with Jarvanna and me and my sis ran Stealthy repossession and waterworks elite. πŸ™‚ We did wipe a couple of times and I released while my sis stayed (because I figured I’d get back a little bit faster), except for in the 3rd quest of waterworks where I asked her to release after I had re-entered. I didn’t have a hire, and I didn’t want to fight all the mobs solo. Otherwise things went pretty well and my sis got xp for lvl (Jarvanna’s still missing 15k)


4 comments on “The importance of good crowd control

  1. Yeah, I like making Drow dance with my bard. CC can be fun, but I’m not sure there is any CC that’ll work on Red names…at least, I haven’t found one…yet.

  2. Lawion was disappointed to learn that his services were no longer required, looks like his “How you doing.” didn’t work after all. 😦
    Just have to hope he gets over it.

    On the other hand, Thesiel is off dancing round the Harbor, now that she doesn’t have to worry about someone else moving in on her guy. πŸ™‚

  3. You are so correct on how cc can make a huge difference. When I did The EDA I know it was on normal but I had to use a combo of stunning fist, tomb of jade and shining star as the cc. Thankfully it was just enough to pull us through but I would not want to do that quest without a proper source of cc.
    @COmic I have never found anything that will cc a red name they seem to get ‘immune’ to everything I pull.. cheating bar stewards…..

  4. @kris πŸ™‚ oh, Lawion’s services are still needed. Just let us know when he is available. For e.g. Red fang and depts. My sis is f2p, so we’re only doing free quests.

    @Dom πŸ™‚ I was gonna try soloing eDA normal with hire and summon. Prob still gonna try it. Should get the Recitation spell for it. Thaz is not a melee build, but she was getting crits for 100 and 150 points in there πŸ™‚ which is the highest I’ve seen her hit.

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